[16:15] <querns> was the xmpp gateway screwing up the URL
[16:22] <exooki> so everyones citadel names have to have the system name in it now?
[16:24] <ccp_fozzie> yup, at the start
[16:25] <exooki> will that be auto-added when i set name and click ok?
[16:25] <exooki> like a prefix thats just always there?
[16:28] <ccp_fozzie> yup
[16:28] <ccp_fozzie> the implementation is on sisi now if anyone wants to give it a try
[16:30] <querns> yeah it was necessary
[16:30] <querns> otherwise it just gets goofy
[16:30] <querns> we were naming all of our citadels starting with the system name just as a matter of course
[16:30] <querns> so we could keep track of the damn things
[16:34] <querns> is that gonna make the max length of the name be truncated or is the database field for name longer than the user input allows
[16:34] <querns> Old Man Star - Thrillho
[18:21] <lynfel> Unfortunately there is nothing being added that will make it so that our alliance will service Citadels in hisec other than maybe a couple owned by trustworthy people.
[18:26] <querns> will Deliver Outside suffice?
[18:26] <querns> when it gets into the game
[18:28] <lynfel> only if they add "any pilot carrying the package can complete it from outside"
[18:28] <lynfel> which still just says "needs more discussion"
[18:28] <lynfel> No red frog contracts are completed by the same character that accepts the original contract.
[18:30] <lynfel> And its really not possible to do so.
[18:32] <ccp_fozzie> The most likely implementation of the outside delivery is that the pilot in space will be able to deposit the item into their own personal hangar in the citadel
[18:32] <lynfel> Then how do they get it back to the contract alt for completion if they cannot dock?
[18:32] <ccp_fozzie> private item exchange contract should work
[18:33] <lynfel> not if there is a nested container
[18:33] <lynfel> Unless you plan to let us see that before accepting so we can reject them, or to remove the limitation.
[18:33] <lynfel> :slightly_smiling_face:
[18:34] <ccp_fozzie> at the moment neither are doable in this time frame
[18:34] <lynfel> So, back to Red Frog will probably be limited to a couple trustworthy owned citadels.
[18:34] <ccp_fozzie> the notification on the contract when there's a container is definitely the more possible of the two options
[18:35] <lynfel> Its too easy for someone to make a contract with a container to a citadel, wait until its accepted then push button and revoke rights.
[18:35] <lynfel> easy collateral scam
[18:38] <lynfel> I fully expect that low/nullsec would require diplomacy and be very limited for who we would be willing to trust, but I was hoping you would add a way to at least be able to service citadels in hisec without such high risk.
[18:41] <ccp_fozzie> Adding the warning for contracts with a container is something we'd like to do at some point, but I'm afraid it won't likely be in the first release
[18:42] <lynfel> And no possibility with being able to complete a contract with any pilot carrying the contract too I assume?
[18:43] <ccp_fozzie> I won't rule it out (implementation of the outside delivery hasn't begun yet) but I also can't promise it
[18:45] <lynfel> Well, I'll cross my fingers since we probably will not touch hisec citadels without any of those in place.
[18:45] <lynfel> Or the Freeport mode with week to change (my favorite), but I know you're not a fan of that. :slightly_smiling_face:
[18:53] <exooki> are we still raising the item limit?
[18:53] <exooki> sheet says implementing
[18:53] <exooki> but announcement doesnt mention in
[21:24] <kennethfeld> ccp_fozzie: will we be able to contract remotely from our citadel hangars?
[21:25] <kennethfeld> both personal and corp hangars?
[21:25] <kennethfeld> exooki: they are raising item stack limit from 200 to 500, but the overall number of items stays at 2000