[08:23] <progodlegend> that's a really strong fleet fit
[08:23] <progodlegend> I'm assuming the Tengu is even stronger
[08:23] <progodlegend> idk I just cracked these open
[08:29] <progodlegend> wow Loki is actually stronger than the tengu
[08:29] <progodlegend> not hat I mind but that's pretty crazy
[08:32] <progodlegend> been playing with them for 2 hours, overall I really like it. They're strong, but the high sig keeps them from being cost effective vs. battleships and keeps them balanced
[08:32] <progodlegend> did we get rid of skill loss yet?
[13:30] <progodlegend> I still worry what that 5% to overheating hardeners bonus is going to do to small and medium gang combat, but I think it really just opens up options for 50 person fleets to take on large numbers again so I like that change to
[13:30] <progodlegend> too*
[13:31] <progodlegend> I don't see it effecting the large fleet meta so much because of how volley focused it is
[15:36] <caprisunkraftfoods> progod welcome to 2 weeks ago lol
[15:36] <caprisunkraftfoods> lokis got mondo buffed in every configuration
[17:00] <sturm_gewehr> To be fair, loki didn't have a lot of viable configurations before.
[17:01] <sturm_gewehr> I don't think that 10mn shield loki is going to be that strong, especially after hitting its alpha more.
[17:03] <sturm_gewehr> The hardener heat bonus won't be much of a problem, the shield loki' s base resists went from x2.11 down to x1.8 or something.
[17:03] <sturm_gewehr> (Not at pc to check right now)
[17:04] <sturm_gewehr> The 420 cargo bay is a nice touch.
[17:05] <sturm_gewehr> You could fit an expanded launcher on that fairly easily if you wanted as well. DLA with changing some of the mods also.
[17:08] <sturm_gewehr> But I really like that a lot of the power is behind the heat bonuses.
[19:04] <progodlegend> @caprisunkraftfoods so have there been any agreed upon changes to the current iteration of these changes
[19:04] <progodlegend> because honestly I think they're pretty solid for the most part
[19:04] <progodlegend> They have a role, but it doesn't feel OP
[19:04] <progodlegend> and they're extremely strong in mid-sized gangs now
[22:51] <asher_elias> @progodlegend yeah I think the loki is too strong
[22:52] <asher_elias> I'm pretty happy with everything else